1 00:00:15,129 --> 00:00:03,290 you're listening to Ira the inception 2 00:00:25,220 --> 00:00:19,760 you're listening to irn 2014 orders own 3 00:00:27,409 --> 00:00:25,230 international yoga conference Wild West 4 00:00:29,990 --> 00:00:27,419 days the gunslingers outlaws and 5 00:00:32,830 --> 00:00:30,000 frontier justice there actually were 6 00:00:35,389 --> 00:00:32,840 hundreds of UFO sightings and encounters 7 00:00:38,300 --> 00:00:35,399 the recently published book the real 8 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:38,310 cowboys and Aliens UFO encounters of the 9 00:00:43,820 --> 00:00:41,250 Old West goes beyond the glamour and 10 00:00:46,900 --> 00:00:43,830 glitz of Hollywood and tells true 11 00:00:50,060 --> 00:00:46,910 stories of alien encounters in the 1800s 12 00:00:52,700 --> 00:00:50,070 our presenter mr. Steven at roscoe is a 13 00:00:55,910 --> 00:00:52,710 researcher and an author who speaks 14 00:00:57,650 --> 00:00:55,920 frequently at UFO conferences he holds a 15 00:01:00,230 --> 00:00:57,660 master's degree from the University of 16 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:00,240 North Texas and Denton please welcome 17 00:01:11,830 --> 00:01:10,420 hopefully I can work it if you pointers 18 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:11,840 right there and that little thing and 19 00:01:17,230 --> 00:01:15,170 this is front and back okay great well 20 00:01:19,750 --> 00:01:17,240 thank you I'm not used to speaking to 21 00:01:23,469 --> 00:01:19,760 adults i usually do storytelling with 22 00:01:26,410 --> 00:01:23,479 little kids and last week I did some 23 00:01:28,450 --> 00:01:26,420 scary Halloween stories and they told me 24 00:01:29,460 --> 00:01:28,460 not the scare of the kids too much but I 25 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:29,470 guess I don't have to worry about 26 00:01:39,820 --> 00:01:38,440 okay we'll see if I can do that I'm 27 00:01:43,150 --> 00:01:39,830 going to kind of do like they tell you 28 00:01:45,510 --> 00:01:43,160 in church to keep the commandments and 29 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:45,520 endure to the end and you'll be rewarded 30 00:01:51,760 --> 00:01:49,490 so I will obey the account the 31 00:01:55,210 --> 00:01:51,770 commandment thou shalt not speak too 32 00:01:58,420 --> 00:01:55,220 much and then you will be rewarded with 33 00:02:02,350 --> 00:01:58,430 our keynote speaker mr. nick pope who 34 00:02:05,020 --> 00:02:02,360 will be coming on right after I am so 35 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:05,030 we're going to talk today about Noah's 36 00:02:17,140 --> 00:02:11,290 book the real cowboys and aliens okay 37 00:02:19,270 --> 00:02:17,150 well we heard a little bit we heard a 38 00:02:21,070 --> 00:02:19,280 little bit today from Javier he was 39 00:02:26,110 --> 00:02:21,080 talking about some of the folk stories 40 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:26,120 and strange tales that were told down by 41 00:02:33,370 --> 00:02:28,610 his dissing her ancestors i should say 42 00:02:35,740 --> 00:02:33,380 in the coyame area stories about fire 43 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:35,750 balls floating the sky blue flames 44 00:02:44,770 --> 00:02:40,810 coming from the ground they look 45 00:02:49,330 --> 00:02:44,780 owls the white owls flying he talked 46 00:02:53,280 --> 00:02:49,340 about some big ugly scary looking dogs 47 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:53,290 that could have been Chupacabra type 48 00:02:59,590 --> 00:02:56,810 animals so there's a lot of tales that 49 00:03:01,360 --> 00:02:59,600 come from this area if you go into the 50 00:03:04,180 --> 00:03:01,370 Big Bend area you could see a lot of 51 00:03:07,479 --> 00:03:04,190 folk art by the Indians that were 52 00:03:09,940 --> 00:03:07,489 written on the rock rock art and all 53 00:03:15,129 --> 00:03:09,950 throughout history you sometimes see 54 00:03:19,590 --> 00:03:15,139 strange depictions of humanoid type 55 00:03:25,340 --> 00:03:19,600 people that are flying whether they be 56 00:03:31,020 --> 00:03:25,350 of religious significance of tales of 57 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:31,030 the origins of their people or things to 58 00:03:42,030 --> 00:03:38,050 help keep evil spirits away well you 59 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:42,040 heard several talks today about in 1947 60 00:03:51,020 --> 00:03:45,250 the Roswell crash and other things in 61 00:03:55,260 --> 00:03:51,030 1974 kogami incident in 1948 Laredo and 62 00:03:57,480 --> 00:03:55,270 1955 the Del Rio crash or incident that 63 00:04:02,070 --> 00:03:57,490 happened around this area but what about 64 00:04:04,620 --> 00:04:02,080 before airplanes were invented did 65 00:04:08,220 --> 00:04:04,630 people see these kinds of things before 66 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:08,230 the Wright brothers or before hot air 67 00:04:18,870 --> 00:04:12,610 balloons or any other type of air 68 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:18,880 transportation was discovered well we 69 00:04:25,290 --> 00:04:21,250 kind of go back layer say in the 1947 70 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:25,300 and when Kenneth Arnold in Washington 71 00:04:32,070 --> 00:04:28,810 was flying and he reported seeing these 72 00:04:34,740 --> 00:04:32,080 flame what he called discs that looked 73 00:04:39,950 --> 00:04:34,750 like saucers turned upside down so the 74 00:04:42,450 --> 00:04:39,960 term flying saucer originated and when 75 00:04:45,060 --> 00:04:42,460 like we heard earlier this morning about 76 00:04:51,660 --> 00:04:45,070 the Roswell crash they talked about a 77 00:04:54,750 --> 00:04:51,670 sauce or flying disk this little bit on 78 00:04:58,410 --> 00:04:54,760 how this book came about there's mr. 79 00:05:02,190 --> 00:04:58,420 Torres and John LeMay they're visiting 80 00:05:08,250 --> 00:05:02,200 the crash site there and they began to 81 00:05:13,350 --> 00:05:08,260 talk about you know what about sightings 82 00:05:16,310 --> 00:05:13,360 prior to Roswell are there any anything 83 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:16,320 reported in the newspapers or magazines 84 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:19,450 or other things that were that took 85 00:05:26,970 --> 00:05:24,010 place prior to the 1947 when it became 86 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:26,980 very popular to talk about UFOs and 87 00:05:39,820 --> 00:05:28,930 flying things 88 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:39,830 so did Cowboys really see UFOs let's see 89 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:43,610 how Hollywood all right did like I've 90 00:05:51,950 --> 00:05:46,250 been drunk out of the sky you got a name 91 00:05:51,960 --> 00:05:57,430 I'm gonna need you to come with us 92 00:05:57,440 --> 00:06:10,090 wouldn't do that if I was you 93 00:06:15,850 --> 00:06:12,670 yeah that's Lonergan bus I want that man 94 00:06:19,840 --> 00:06:15,860 you given to me now i need to know where 95 00:06:38,900 --> 00:06:19,850 you came from so do i you don't remember 96 00:06:38,910 --> 00:06:52,310 we're coming back 97 00:06:57,110 --> 00:06:54,500 what the hell were those things why are 98 00:06:59,660 --> 00:06:57,120 you asking me they've got my son my wife 99 00:07:04,280 --> 00:06:59,670 I need to order it's the only thing that 100 00:07:09,580 --> 00:07:04,290 counts what about the other people are 101 00:07:09,590 --> 00:07:17,999 you just have to work together 102 00:07:18,009 --> 00:07:20,750 who is she 103 00:07:26,230 --> 00:07:23,390 you only want to know who I have you 104 00:07:28,490 --> 00:07:26,240 know they are you just have to remember 105 00:07:30,260 --> 00:07:28,500 they'll come back with more and there 106 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:30,270 will be no survivors it's what they did 107 00:07:45,710 --> 00:07:36,370 I say good men do bad things that men do 108 00:07:45,720 --> 00:07:49,689 they're here 109 00:08:07,699 --> 00:07:54,789 so we step in looks like he's doing fine 110 00:08:14,359 --> 00:08:07,709 pat down well I I like that movie I've 111 00:08:18,729 --> 00:08:14,369 seen it several times now did Cowboys 112 00:08:20,989 --> 00:08:18,739 have any shootouts with aliens well 113 00:08:23,149 --> 00:08:20,999 we're going to take a look in this book 114 00:08:27,729 --> 00:08:23,159 of some events that did happen and and 115 00:08:30,739 --> 00:08:27,739 some encounters that did occur prior to 116 00:08:37,569 --> 00:08:30,749 flying machines or airplanes being 117 00:08:40,459 --> 00:08:37,579 invented in the United States this was a 118 00:08:42,860 --> 00:08:40,469 little review of Noah's book which came 119 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:42,870 out on the same day that the movie 120 00:08:47,449 --> 00:08:46,290 Cowboys and Aliens was released says hey 121 00:08:49,670 --> 00:08:47,459 Hollywood if you're going to make a 122 00:08:53,509 --> 00:08:49,680 big-budget movie about extraterrestrial 123 00:08:57,079 --> 00:08:53,519 contact with Wild West cowpunchers can't 124 00:08:59,660 --> 00:08:57,089 you at least try to get it right so the 125 00:09:02,259 --> 00:08:59,670 real cowboys and aliens a UFO encounters 126 00:09:04,759 --> 00:09:02,269 of the Old West sets the record straight 127 00:09:07,129 --> 00:09:04,769 using information gathered from yellowed 128 00:09:09,230 --> 00:09:07,139 newspaper clippings from the 1800s to 129 00:09:12,470 --> 00:09:09,240 tell of numerous close encounters 130 00:09:17,749 --> 00:09:12,480 between farmers and cowboys on the range 131 00:09:19,699 --> 00:09:17,759 and mysterious visitors in the night one 132 00:09:21,619 --> 00:09:19,709 of the fun things about this is a lot of 133 00:09:27,139 --> 00:09:21,629 these stories come from right here in 134 00:09:30,110 --> 00:09:27,149 the great state of Texas and we'll take 135 00:09:34,449 --> 00:09:30,120 a look at them now well the first one in 136 00:09:38,150 --> 00:09:34,459 the book if happens to a mountain man in 137 00:09:40,819 --> 00:09:38,160 Montana around cadeau pass and mountain 138 00:09:43,730 --> 00:09:40,829 men like we heard from Xavier a lot of 139 00:09:48,499 --> 00:09:43,740 these stories take place occur to people 140 00:09:51,799 --> 00:09:48,509 that are of pioneer stock and so they're 141 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:51,809 out and about in the elements earning a 142 00:10:03,330 --> 00:10:00,340 shopkeepers soldiers and lovely was one 143 00:10:06,490 --> 00:10:03,340 of those he was a fur trapper and in 144 00:10:09,150 --> 00:10:06,500 1864 while he was out he witnessed a 145 00:10:15,850 --> 00:10:09,160 bright object that came through the sky 146 00:10:17,980 --> 00:10:15,860 and he saw it disintegrated or break off 147 00:10:20,020 --> 00:10:17,990 into smaller pieces that he said look 148 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:20,030 like a rocket in the sky and then he 149 00:10:28,690 --> 00:10:23,090 heard a loud explosion and he smelled 150 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:28,700 the smell of sulfur now this took blast 151 00:10:32,920 --> 00:10:30,890 took place up in the rocky mountains and 152 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:32,930 it was at night so he waited till the 153 00:10:39,690 --> 00:10:35,090 next morning to go and explore and see 154 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:39,700 if he could find the cause of this great 155 00:10:45,310 --> 00:10:42,410 ball in the fire and explosion that he 156 00:10:47,620 --> 00:10:45,320 saw the next morning found a big wide 157 00:10:51,220 --> 00:10:47,630 swath of destruction were trees and 158 00:10:54,070 --> 00:10:51,230 rocks and had been leveled and he found 159 00:10:58,420 --> 00:10:54,080 a at the end of this trail of 160 00:11:01,930 --> 00:10:58,430 destruction a black what he described a 161 00:11:07,900 --> 00:11:01,940 black craft of some type that looked 162 00:11:11,710 --> 00:11:07,910 like a burnt rock inside he he actually 163 00:11:14,260 --> 00:11:11,720 looked inside or went inside this what 164 00:11:17,290 --> 00:11:14,270 he described large burnt walk that had 165 00:11:21,690 --> 00:11:17,300 several compartments inside and carved 166 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:25,030 you know these types of writing that he 167 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:27,650 could not decipher which he described 168 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:31,250 looking like you know Egyptian type 169 00:11:45,310 --> 00:11:38,710 writing our next story takes place in 170 00:11:50,020 --> 00:11:45,320 Kansas and also in northern texas and on 171 00:11:52,180 --> 00:11:50,030 several consecutive days people in the 172 00:12:00,040 --> 00:11:52,190 area saw what they described as a flying 173 00:12:03,130 --> 00:12:00,050 Serpent in the sky in there were several 174 00:12:07,290 --> 00:12:03,140 places in in Texas down around Wichita 175 00:12:10,019 --> 00:12:07,300 Falls and up here north of Joplin 176 00:12:12,870 --> 00:12:10,029 Missouri were Fort Scott took place many 177 00:12:16,139 --> 00:12:12,880 people witnessed the one in Fort Scott 178 00:12:20,699 --> 00:12:16,149 were several the ones in Texas that 179 00:12:24,990 --> 00:12:20,709 weren't as many witnesses they described 180 00:12:27,060 --> 00:12:25,000 it as a huge flying snake flying through 181 00:12:33,780 --> 00:12:27,070 the sky and we'll talk about some other 182 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:33,790 ones that saw a UFO or a flying snake or 183 00:12:41,069 --> 00:12:36,730 reptile similar to that in in a little 184 00:12:43,829 --> 00:12:41,079 bit okay this one is also interesting 185 00:12:46,050 --> 00:12:43,839 story because it it's one of the first 186 00:12:51,030 --> 00:12:46,060 instances where they described a flying 187 00:12:54,300 --> 00:12:51,040 saucer as a saucer-shaped this was also 188 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:54,310 seen in Texas and written about in the 189 00:13:00,150 --> 00:12:57,010 newspaper most these newspaper accounts 190 00:13:03,240 --> 00:13:00,160 the after they tell their story they 191 00:13:04,949 --> 00:13:03,250 have affidavits from the people that are 192 00:13:07,110 --> 00:13:04,959 their neighbors that the person telling 193 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:07,120 this story would never tell a lie was 194 00:13:11,340 --> 00:13:08,890 honest throughout all their life and 195 00:13:19,980 --> 00:13:11,350 could be certified that this story was 196 00:13:21,810 --> 00:13:19,990 not made up it said that this newspaper 197 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:21,820 article said went directly over him it 198 00:13:29,850 --> 00:13:24,250 was about the size of a large saucer and 199 00:13:31,800 --> 00:13:29,860 was evidently of great height it he 200 00:13:33,930 --> 00:13:31,810 described it first at the size of an 201 00:13:35,850 --> 00:13:33,940 orange when he looked in the sky and as 202 00:13:39,540 --> 00:13:35,860 it got closer and closer to him it grew 203 00:13:43,310 --> 00:13:39,550 larger and larger it appeared to move 204 00:13:47,970 --> 00:13:43,320 with with space through space at a 205 00:13:51,269 --> 00:13:47,980 wonderful speed and the brightness of it 206 00:13:58,319 --> 00:13:51,279 even though during the day was too 207 00:14:02,370 --> 00:13:58,329 bright for him to look at and that like 208 00:14:05,699 --> 00:14:02,380 I say that took place near Wichita Falls 209 00:14:08,100 --> 00:14:05,709 and up near Fort Scott Kansas I was very 210 00:14:11,430 --> 00:14:08,110 influenced by J Allen Hynek because he 211 00:14:13,620 --> 00:14:11,440 was not looking at UFOs as science 212 00:14:16,400 --> 00:14:13,630 fiction but he was looking at them as 213 00:14:17,990 --> 00:14:16,410 science speculation and he was in 214 00:14:20,749 --> 00:14:18,000 by the government for Project Blue Book 215 00:14:22,309 --> 00:14:20,759 for 20 years investigating all of these 216 00:14:25,189 --> 00:14:22,319 UFO things that were still being in the 217 00:14:27,350 --> 00:14:25,199 50s in a nutshell Hynek was a 218 00:14:30,350 --> 00:14:27,360 disbeliever who became a believer she 219 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:30,360 found the witness reports very credible 220 00:14:35,269 --> 00:14:32,490 and he found so many similarities from 221 00:14:38,150 --> 00:14:35,279 so many portions of America as well as 222 00:14:39,889 --> 00:14:38,160 throughout the world that he became a 223 00:14:41,990 --> 00:14:39,899 convert to the fact that the government 224 00:14:44,389 --> 00:14:42,000 was hiding something and something was 225 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:44,399 afoot at the end of it the government 226 00:14:48,170 --> 00:14:46,050 and disbanded project blue book and said 227 00:14:50,929 --> 00:14:48,180 they no evidence of any kind of any sort 228 00:14:53,449 --> 00:14:50,939 and dr. Hynek said who is very much a 229 00:14:55,189 --> 00:14:53,459 skeptic and wanted to be a disbeliever 230 00:14:57,499 --> 00:14:55,199 because that was the scientific approach 231 00:15:01,340 --> 00:14:57,509 dr. Hynek said they had several hundred 232 00:15:02,780 --> 00:15:01,350 cases of absolutely unexplained UFOs he 233 00:15:04,100 --> 00:15:02,790 didn't say what they were you know he 234 00:15:06,019 --> 00:15:04,110 wasn't saying they were from outer space 235 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:06,029 he said we came across stuff there was 236 00:15:10,189 --> 00:15:08,370 no possible way of debunking some of 237 00:15:12,769 --> 00:15:10,199 these things it was unexplainable so I 238 00:15:15,139 --> 00:15:12,779 met with him and I used him and I picked 239 00:15:16,699 --> 00:15:15,149 his brain and he consulted with me he's 240 00:15:19,160 --> 00:15:16,709 even in a movie not in a bit of a scene 241 00:15:21,889 --> 00:15:19,170 in the third act and I a lot to his 242 00:15:24,499 --> 00:15:21,899 instilling in me a professional point of 243 00:15:25,999 --> 00:15:24,509 view on this kind of feel reporting and 244 00:15:27,050 --> 00:15:26,009 he helped him that the movie more 245 00:15:29,689 --> 00:15:27,060 credible than it would have been without 246 00:15:31,790 --> 00:15:29,699 his his existence the term close 247 00:15:33,740 --> 00:15:31,800 encounter of the Third Kind is taken 248 00:15:36,019 --> 00:15:33,750 from dr. Alan J hynek's book keys who 249 00:15:38,090 --> 00:15:36,029 created the term of most encounters most 250 00:15:39,860 --> 00:15:38,100 powder the first kind is one is close 251 00:15:42,050 --> 00:15:39,870 but nothing really happened close 252 00:15:44,059 --> 00:15:42,060 encounter of the first kind is visible 253 00:15:45,590 --> 00:15:44,069 contact of the UFO forget the shape and 254 00:15:47,449 --> 00:15:45,600 free up at this point I mean you just 255 00:15:48,390 --> 00:15:47,459 can't explain those encounters in the 256 00:15:52,190 --> 00:15:48,400 second time 257 00:15:54,230 --> 00:15:52,200 which leave a physical trace holds in 258 00:15:56,840 --> 00:15:54,240 broken tree branches telephone lines 259 00:15:59,030 --> 00:15:56,850 down animals is there stopping of car 260 00:16:01,310 --> 00:15:59,040 engines and the Close Encounters of the 261 00:16:10,140 --> 00:16:01,320 Third Kind are the most interesting of 262 00:16:14,590 --> 00:16:12,610 well this clip if you could understand 263 00:16:16,780 --> 00:16:14,600 was Steven Spielberg and they were and 264 00:16:18,970 --> 00:16:16,790 some of the crew of the movie Close 265 00:16:21,870 --> 00:16:18,980 Encounters of the Third Kind talking 266 00:16:25,180 --> 00:16:21,880 about dr. J Allen Hynek and he was a 267 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:25,190 researcher of UFOs and he stated that 268 00:16:30,970 --> 00:16:29,330 this case of the former seen the UFO or 269 00:16:34,450 --> 00:16:30,980 in the flying saucer was what he 270 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:34,460 described as a classic sighting of a 271 00:16:42,190 --> 00:16:38,690 daylight disk and many of the disks that 272 00:16:44,710 --> 00:16:42,200 we see or those classic sites but some 273 00:16:46,570 --> 00:16:44,720 of the ones that the farmers saw the way 274 00:16:49,329 --> 00:16:46,580 they described them they described them 275 00:16:55,810 --> 00:16:49,339 in words and in images that they were 276 00:16:57,730 --> 00:16:55,820 familiar with now of course being down 277 00:17:01,600 --> 00:16:57,740 here in presidio you'll be very familiar 278 00:17:04,030 --> 00:17:01,610 with the ghost lights or the Marfa 279 00:17:06,189 --> 00:17:04,040 lights which a couple nights ago we 280 00:17:09,520 --> 00:17:06,199 stopped on the way here and spend about 281 00:17:11,620 --> 00:17:09,530 a half an hour observing and if you 282 00:17:17,199 --> 00:17:11,630 heard from Xavier talking earlier today 283 00:17:19,090 --> 00:17:17,209 about the balls of fire and the holes in 284 00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:19,100 the ground where the blue flames were 285 00:17:28,780 --> 00:17:25,329 coming in coyame very well can describe 286 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:28,790 ghost lights of Marfa now a lot of 287 00:17:32,919 --> 00:17:30,410 people say well those are just car 288 00:17:34,930 --> 00:17:32,929 lights reflecting off the mountains but 289 00:17:37,660 --> 00:17:34,940 if you've driven at night from Marfa 290 00:17:40,060 --> 00:17:37,670 down here to Presidio you'll notice that 291 00:17:44,650 --> 00:17:40,070 there's not that much traffic running 292 00:17:46,870 --> 00:17:44,660 between Presidio and Marfa at night all 293 00:17:50,950 --> 00:17:46,880 night every night when these things are 294 00:17:53,530 --> 00:17:50,960 being seen and of course in 1883 they 295 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:53,540 didn't really have a highway through 296 00:17:59,640 --> 00:17:57,530 here we're obviously cars with car 297 00:18:01,720 --> 00:17:59,650 lights would be would be traveling 298 00:18:03,610 --> 00:18:01,730 Robert Ellison was one of the first 299 00:18:08,070 --> 00:18:03,620 Cowboys to see that while they were on a 300 00:18:11,610 --> 00:18:08,080 cattle drive thinking that it was 301 00:18:14,860 --> 00:18:11,620 campfires of Apache Indian so he and his 302 00:18:17,230 --> 00:18:14,870 his companions wrote out to try to 303 00:18:18,570 --> 00:18:17,240 locate these flyers and were not 304 00:18:22,250 --> 00:18:18,580 successful 305 00:18:25,590 --> 00:18:22,260 there's lots of stories folktales and 306 00:18:27,630 --> 00:18:25,600 about the lights and I usually tell it 307 00:18:33,570 --> 00:18:27,640 like to tell a story about wicked John 308 00:18:38,159 --> 00:18:33,580 who was a blacksmith who was at the he 309 00:18:40,019 --> 00:18:38,169 was very mean and nasty and as he got 310 00:18:43,110 --> 00:18:40,029 older even got grumpier and meaner and 311 00:18:46,850 --> 00:18:43,120 nasty and he had a little run-in with 312 00:18:49,830 --> 00:18:46,860 some Devils while he was a blacksmithing 313 00:18:52,139 --> 00:18:49,840 anyway when he died he tried to go up to 314 00:18:55,470 --> 00:18:52,149 heaven and they st. Peter had locked the 315 00:18:57,779 --> 00:18:55,480 gates and wouldn't let him in and he 316 00:19:00,149 --> 00:18:57,789 said where can I go and he says well you 317 00:19:02,039 --> 00:19:00,159 got to go down to hell you know so he 318 00:19:05,250 --> 00:19:02,049 went down to hell and as he was going 319 00:19:08,009 --> 00:19:05,260 there he passed the little devils that 320 00:19:09,509 --> 00:19:08,019 he'd had a run-in with so they ran down 321 00:19:11,310 --> 00:19:09,519 to the gates of hell and lock the doors 322 00:19:14,879 --> 00:19:11,320 and wouldn't let him in because he was 323 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:14,889 so mean and so he said well if I can't 324 00:19:18,899 --> 00:19:16,330 go to heaven and I can't go to hell 325 00:19:21,930 --> 00:19:18,909 where do I go and they said we don't 326 00:19:24,060 --> 00:19:21,940 care go to Texas so as he turned around 327 00:19:26,549 --> 00:19:24,070 to leave they picked up two big balls of 328 00:19:29,370 --> 00:19:26,559 fire and through madam and he picked 329 00:19:32,460 --> 00:19:29,380 them up and he decided to just take them 330 00:19:34,460 --> 00:19:32,470 with them so that particular story talks 331 00:19:36,720 --> 00:19:34,470 about wicked gylan walking down the 332 00:19:39,659 --> 00:19:36,730 mountains each night carrying the two 333 00:19:41,399 --> 00:19:39,669 balls of fire and so sometimes when 334 00:19:43,230 --> 00:19:41,409 you're observing the Marfa lights you'll 335 00:19:46,379 --> 00:19:43,240 see the balls of fire coming down and 336 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:46,389 then split into two and they say that 337 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:48,850 that's wicked John walking down the 338 00:19:54,269 --> 00:19:52,570 mountain with the two balls of fire but 339 00:19:58,799 --> 00:19:54,279 there are many other stories that could 340 00:20:01,590 --> 00:19:58,809 be related to the Marfa lights of course 341 00:20:04,409 --> 00:20:01,600 the state of Texas has built in a fee 342 00:20:07,409 --> 00:20:04,419 official rest stop and viewing area 343 00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:07,419 there for people to stop at night and 344 00:20:12,860 --> 00:20:10,240 I'll park their cars and they have it 345 00:20:16,490 --> 00:20:12,870 purposely dark there so you can look out 346 00:20:18,750 --> 00:20:16,500 into the distance and see the lights 347 00:20:23,079 --> 00:20:18,760 these are some pictures of the lights 348 00:20:33,499 --> 00:20:28,089 and as you could see they flash on and 349 00:20:37,339 --> 00:20:33,509 then they'll fade out now we were lucky 350 00:20:40,159 --> 00:20:37,349 enough that we were Greg who's back here 351 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:40,169 somewhere had his night-vision goggles 352 00:20:45,619 --> 00:20:42,450 with them and we were able to observe 353 00:20:49,369 --> 00:20:45,629 the lights for the night vision goggles 354 00:20:51,079 --> 00:20:49,379 and where you see a few lights here when 355 00:20:54,639 --> 00:20:51,089 we put on the goggles we could see about 356 00:20:58,310 --> 00:20:54,649 a dozen in the same area so with those 357 00:21:05,629 --> 00:20:58,320 type of viewing devices we were able to 358 00:21:08,060 --> 00:21:05,639 see much more and then knowing Ruben 359 00:21:10,879 --> 00:21:08,070 went out with some group of paranormal 360 00:21:12,829 --> 00:21:10,889 guys and did a laser experiment on the 361 00:21:17,509 --> 00:21:12,839 lights where they flash the lights 362 00:21:19,669 --> 00:21:17,519 towards the lasers towards the light 363 00:21:27,270 --> 00:21:19,679 know what you want to talk about that a 364 00:21:33,700 --> 00:21:31,990 as they pointed the lasers toward the 365 00:21:45,340 --> 00:21:33,710 lights the lights seem to glow a little 366 00:21:50,650 --> 00:21:47,409 and many people have gone out and done 367 00:21:54,640 --> 00:21:50,660 experiments to try to figure out what 368 00:21:57,500 --> 00:21:54,650 exactly causes the lights 369 00:22:00,590 --> 00:21:57,510 I've seen several shows where they have 370 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:00,600 people driving their cars 371 00:22:22,750 --> 00:22:16,200 now when broken to zip is probably 372 00:22:29,539 --> 00:22:25,039 how many of you have been out to see the 373 00:22:31,190 --> 00:22:29,549 lights most of you yeah it's it's quite 374 00:22:33,289 --> 00:22:31,200 when I had that was kind of on my bucket 375 00:22:35,779 --> 00:22:33,299 list and now I've been able to do that a 376 00:22:39,529 --> 00:22:35,789 couple of times with tagging along with 377 00:22:46,789 --> 00:22:39,539 noe this is a picture of the place where 378 00:22:48,919 --> 00:22:46,799 we were just a couple nights ago this is 379 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:48,929 a little clip that was done by one of 380 00:22:52,970 --> 00:22:51,450 the local television stations appearing 381 00:22:55,519 --> 00:22:52,980 nightly in the desert just outside 382 00:22:57,649 --> 00:22:55,529 Martha the lights are one of the longest 383 00:23:00,440 --> 00:22:57,659 standing unexplained phenomena in the 384 00:23:02,659 --> 00:23:00,450 United States explanations run the scale 385 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:02,669 from a UFO landing base to uneasy 386 00:23:12,330 --> 00:23:05,250 spirits of long dead Indians but one 387 00:23:15,539 --> 00:23:14,010 while some people in marfa would prefer 388 00:23:18,539 --> 00:23:15,549 not to talk about these glowing lights 389 00:23:19,919 --> 00:23:18,549 no one will deny they exist the Chamber 390 00:23:21,630 --> 00:23:19,929 of Commerce will be glad to give you 391 00:23:23,909 --> 00:23:21,640 directions on how to go about viewing 392 00:23:26,460 --> 00:23:23,919 them and the el paisano hotel even 393 00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:26,470 conducts a regular tour we take people 394 00:23:30,750 --> 00:23:29,200 here at the hotel usually on Saturday 395 00:23:33,120 --> 00:23:30,760 night we have a scenic route that we 396 00:23:35,430 --> 00:23:33,130 take folks on and part of its and Martha 397 00:23:38,039 --> 00:23:35,440 lights and what we enjoy most that I do 398 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:38,049 is taking people out that don't believe 399 00:23:42,149 --> 00:23:39,970 it when you first start looking at me 400 00:23:44,460 --> 00:23:42,159 you think their car lights but when they 401 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:44,470 split up one jumps this way in one jumps 402 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:46,690 that way well it can make a believer if 403 00:23:52,409 --> 00:23:50,770 you're real quick I experienced we tried 404 00:23:53,370 --> 00:23:52,419 to walk across the desert and catch up 405 00:23:55,889 --> 00:23:53,380 with them it seemed like they always 406 00:23:59,370 --> 00:23:55,899 stayed just a few steps ahead of you 407 00:24:01,409 --> 00:23:59,380 never get real close to them so maybe 408 00:24:03,060 --> 00:24:01,419 they maybe they do possess intelligence 409 00:24:05,039 --> 00:24:03,070 maybe maybe they do maybe they know what 410 00:24:06,600 --> 00:24:05,049 we're doing Kirby Warnock has been 411 00:24:08,490 --> 00:24:06,610 interested in the Marfa lights ever 412 00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:08,500 since he first saw them as a child he 413 00:24:12,060 --> 00:24:10,690 recently spent over a year in research 414 00:24:14,419 --> 00:24:12,070 for an article about the lights 415 00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:14,429 published in southwest airlines magazine 416 00:24:18,529 --> 00:24:16,809 Kirby agreed to be our guide in our 417 00:24:20,820 --> 00:24:18,539 quest to learn more about the lights 418 00:24:24,269 --> 00:24:20,830 have you ever seen the lights oh yes 419 00:24:26,789 --> 00:24:24,279 many many times our first stop was at 420 00:24:28,350 --> 00:24:26,799 the home of mrs. Julia Plumlee and her 421 00:24:30,389 --> 00:24:28,360 father was one of the first people to 422 00:24:33,090 --> 00:24:30,399 report a sighting of the Marfa lights he 423 00:24:36,899 --> 00:24:33,100 came out here's the 16 years old in the 424 00:24:39,269 --> 00:24:36,909 eighteen eighty-three and they unloaded 425 00:24:42,810 --> 00:24:39,279 a big herd of cattle at Alpine which was 426 00:24:45,269 --> 00:24:42,820 them murphyville soon after settling in 427 00:24:47,639 --> 00:24:45,279 the Marfa area the Cowboys began seeing 428 00:24:49,470 --> 00:24:47,649 lights that they could not explain but 429 00:24:51,539 --> 00:24:49,480 they believed in the lights oh that you 430 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:51,549 I was there and the one any other lights 431 00:24:55,950 --> 00:24:54,610 in those days you know so it couldn't 432 00:25:01,820 --> 00:24:55,960 have been car lights or anything that's 433 00:25:06,330 --> 00:25:04,140 although the sightings continued through 434 00:25:07,620 --> 00:25:06,340 the years it wasn't until World War two 435 00:25:10,140 --> 00:25:07,630 that the lights received much 436 00:25:11,850 --> 00:25:10,150 recognition this is all that remains of 437 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:11,860 what was once home for over eight 438 00:25:18,180 --> 00:25:14,890 thousand Airmen the marfa Army Air Base 439 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:18,190 opened on January seventh 1943 and began 440 00:25:23,220 --> 00:25:20,770 training cadets to be bomber pilots at 441 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:23,230 that time there were no yard lights 442 00:25:28,140 --> 00:25:25,330 guard lights and electricity vehicular 443 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:28,150 traffic Wizard of went has at a bare 444 00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:30,490 minimum because of wartime restrictions 445 00:25:36,690 --> 00:25:34,240 on travel so any light was conspicuous 446 00:25:38,580 --> 00:25:36,700 Fritz call was an instructor at the old 447 00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:38,590 Air Base and has been manager of the 448 00:25:42,450 --> 00:25:41,290 airport here in Marfa ever since the 449 00:25:44,550 --> 00:25:42,460 army never released an official 450 00:25:46,380 --> 00:25:44,560 statement about the lights and Fritz 451 00:25:48,270 --> 00:25:46,390 says that many of the wild stories from 452 00:25:51,060 --> 00:25:48,280 that era were products of some vivid 453 00:25:53,460 --> 00:25:51,070 imaginations but like many of the cadets 454 00:25:56,160 --> 00:25:53,470 he too quickly became interested in the 455 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:56,170 lights socializing with the local 456 00:26:01,080 --> 00:25:58,330 citizens we found out about the marker 457 00:26:05,450 --> 00:26:01,090 lights and we're just like any 21 year 458 00:26:11,669 --> 00:26:09,450 okay so there's different people have 459 00:26:14,250 --> 00:26:11,679 had different experiences of doing 460 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:14,260 research on the Marfa lights yet no one 461 00:26:20,549 --> 00:26:16,650 has really been able to describe what 462 00:26:22,350 --> 00:26:20,559 exactly they are now this is one of my 463 00:26:25,260 --> 00:26:22,360 favorite stories in Noah's book it's 464 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:25,270 about some Cowboys that were out in 465 00:26:31,710 --> 00:26:28,090 Nebraska John Ellis and when they saw a 466 00:26:35,340 --> 00:26:31,720 cylindrical object racing through the 467 00:26:38,130 --> 00:26:35,350 sky and then explode over a ravine so 468 00:26:42,419 --> 00:26:38,140 they took off on their horses to go look 469 00:26:46,529 --> 00:26:42,429 at it and like many modern tales of 470 00:26:52,289 --> 00:26:46,539 crash sites they found a debris field 471 00:26:55,710 --> 00:26:52,299 and a as the vehicle crash that it it 472 00:26:58,230 --> 00:26:55,720 hit the ground and with tremendous Heat 473 00:27:01,320 --> 00:26:58,240 the object was glowing very brightly and 474 00:27:05,570 --> 00:27:01,330 they describe what they described as 475 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:05,580 cogwheels scattered all over the area 476 00:27:12,149 --> 00:27:08,890 the object that hit was so hot that it 477 00:27:16,980 --> 00:27:12,159 melted the sand into glass like beads 478 00:27:20,490 --> 00:27:16,990 and the object rested down in the bottom 479 00:27:22,409 --> 00:27:20,500 of a ravine they went to look at it and 480 00:27:26,549 --> 00:27:22,419 the object was so bright that it was 481 00:27:28,740 --> 00:27:26,559 blinding them so they decided that they 482 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:28,750 would leave and come back the next 483 00:27:33,990 --> 00:27:31,450 morning when the object cooled down so 484 00:27:36,810 --> 00:27:34,000 that they could go down and maybe take a 485 00:27:39,659 --> 00:27:36,820 close look at it so the next morning 486 00:27:41,430 --> 00:27:39,669 they went back to the ravine and as they 487 00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:41,440 got closer the ravine and looked over 488 00:27:45,930 --> 00:27:44,080 the object was still glowing so hot that 489 00:27:50,430 --> 00:27:45,940 one of the Cowboys his hair was singed 490 00:27:52,409 --> 00:27:50,440 in his face burnt and blisters began to 491 00:27:55,919 --> 00:27:52,419 appear on his face so they had to drag 492 00:27:59,820 --> 00:27:55,929 him back and they still were not able to 493 00:28:03,029 --> 00:27:59,830 get close enough to the object they took 494 00:28:05,310 --> 00:28:03,039 their their companion back to town to 495 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:05,320 have him doctored up a news spread from 496 00:28:11,190 --> 00:28:07,690 there of this object that people began 497 00:28:13,049 --> 00:28:11,200 to come to want to look at it but but 498 00:28:13,980 --> 00:28:13,059 for several days the object was very 499 00:28:15,570 --> 00:28:13,990 very 500 00:28:19,710 --> 00:28:15,580 hot-too no one who could get near enough 501 00:28:23,250 --> 00:28:19,720 to it to touch it as the story goes when 502 00:28:29,490 --> 00:28:23,260 many of the people came to look at it a 503 00:28:31,590 --> 00:28:29,500 huge rainstorm came and began dumping 504 00:28:34,350 --> 00:28:31,600 rain down into the ravine and there was 505 00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:34,360 like a flash flood and after the rain 506 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:37,120 stopped and they went back to look they 507 00:28:44,630 --> 00:28:39,250 said they watched the thing what was 508 00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:49,860 they described it as salt washing in so 509 00:28:54,780 --> 00:28:51,610 they were sounded just to see the object 510 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:54,790 had melt and dissolve like water by the 511 00:29:00,330 --> 00:28:57,850 water like a spoonful of salt scarcely a 512 00:29:02,370 --> 00:29:00,340 vestige of it remains small jelly-like 513 00:29:05,490 --> 00:29:02,380 pool stood here and there on the ground 514 00:29:07,980 --> 00:29:05,500 but under the eyes of the observer the 515 00:29:09,419 --> 00:29:07,990 object grew thinner and thinner till 516 00:29:11,790 --> 00:29:09,429 there was nothing but muddy water 517 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:11,800 joining the reels that led to current a 518 00:29:18,540 --> 00:29:14,530 few feet away the air was filled with a 519 00:29:24,330 --> 00:29:18,550 faint Swedish a sweet tea SH not like 520 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:24,340 sweet and sweet like candy smell it's a 521 00:29:30,419 --> 00:29:26,890 skeptics will say well you know most 522 00:29:35,820 --> 00:29:30,429 UFOs didn't have what you would describe 523 00:29:37,830 --> 00:29:35,830 as cogwheels in modern terms but these 524 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:37,840 Cowboys they were trying to describe the 525 00:29:44,220 --> 00:29:39,610 pieces of the wreckage in terms that 526 00:29:46,740 --> 00:29:44,230 they understood and so that's the way 527 00:29:49,350 --> 00:29:46,750 they described it but the interesting 528 00:29:52,890 --> 00:29:49,360 part was the subject was so hot and then 529 00:29:56,280 --> 00:29:52,900 that it just melted and disappeared in a 530 00:29:58,680 --> 00:29:56,290 rainstorm was is I've never heard of any 531 00:30:00,810 --> 00:29:58,690 other kind of UFO sighting like that 532 00:30:07,910 --> 00:30:00,820 kind of like the Witch and The Wizard of 533 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:07,920 Oz or those guys in that old TV show the 534 00:30:13,919 --> 00:30:12,490 the invaders were that the aliens would 535 00:30:16,260 --> 00:30:13,929 disappear when he shot him and killed 536 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:16,270 him but I think that was a movie thing 537 00:30:23,700 --> 00:30:21,730 just to get rid of the bodies how much 538 00:30:25,970 --> 00:30:23,710 time I have no II 539 00:30:31,580 --> 00:30:25,980 I was going to slice still got some time 540 00:30:34,169 --> 00:30:31,590 now this of course happened in Nebraska 541 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:34,179 another good story this one would go out 542 00:30:38,549 --> 00:30:36,730 to the California redwood Coast is about 543 00:30:42,149 --> 00:30:38,559 Bigfoot's now anything what does 544 00:30:45,260 --> 00:30:42,159 Bigfoot's and cowboys have and UFOs have 545 00:30:48,450 --> 00:30:45,270 to do together well there was a 546 00:30:56,090 --> 00:30:48,460 researcher that was in California in the 547 00:31:02,639 --> 00:31:00,360 and as he was studying the Indian tribe 548 00:31:05,610 --> 00:31:02,649 learning their customs and language and 549 00:31:07,380 --> 00:31:05,620 that he noticed each evening one of the 550 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:07,390 members of the tribe would carry meat 551 00:31:12,510 --> 00:31:10,570 out into the forest raw meat and so he 552 00:31:14,130 --> 00:31:12,520 began to wonder why each night he would 553 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:14,140 observe this member of the tribe 554 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:15,970 carrying the meat so he decided to 555 00:31:21,930 --> 00:31:18,730 follow him and he followed him until he 556 00:31:24,690 --> 00:31:21,940 came to a small cave and the embankment 557 00:31:27,060 --> 00:31:24,700 next to the river and in sitting 558 00:31:30,690 --> 00:31:27,070 cross-legged inside the cave was what he 559 00:31:35,430 --> 00:31:30,700 described as a large hairy muscular man 560 00:31:38,100 --> 00:31:35,440 beast the member of the tribe would take 561 00:31:40,820 --> 00:31:38,110 meat to this creature and he would eat 562 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:40,830 it he would sit there very calmly and 563 00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:43,690 looked like very gratefully but he was 564 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:47,130 being fed each night so he began to 565 00:31:54,299 --> 00:31:51,850 question about this beast and the member 566 00:31:56,580 --> 00:31:54,309 of the tribe told him that well he was 567 00:32:01,049 --> 00:31:56,590 just one of many that had been dropped 568 00:32:03,389 --> 00:32:01,059 off in the area by a flying moon that 569 00:32:05,850 --> 00:32:03,399 would come into the area and lower these 570 00:32:09,269 --> 00:32:05,860 beasts from the moon down onto the top 571 00:32:12,990 --> 00:32:09,279 of the mountain and that the members of 572 00:32:16,049 --> 00:32:13,000 the tribe would escort these beasts back 573 00:32:18,060 --> 00:32:16,059 to the village and then that they would 574 00:32:22,190 --> 00:32:18,070 take care of these animals they called 575 00:32:26,130 --> 00:32:22,200 them crazy bears now this researcher 576 00:32:29,220 --> 00:32:26,140 whether he met others he doesn't 577 00:32:30,340 --> 00:32:29,230 describe in his diary he only talks 578 00:32:32,380 --> 00:32:30,350 about the one and 579 00:32:37,500 --> 00:32:32,390 only talks about the one visit that he 580 00:32:41,669 --> 00:32:37,510 made to the crazy bear but oftentimes 581 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:41,679 people who talk about Bigfoot creatures 582 00:32:48,279 --> 00:32:44,690 sometimes they see these Bigfoot 583 00:32:50,830 --> 00:32:48,289 creatures after you know a short time 584 00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:50,840 after someone else is seeing a UFO in 585 00:32:58,210 --> 00:32:55,610 the area I've had several people i lived 586 00:33:01,299 --> 00:32:58,220 in white salmon Washington for a while 587 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:01,309 and I had several people when I lived up 588 00:33:05,649 --> 00:33:02,690 there tell me stories of their 589 00:33:08,740 --> 00:33:05,659 encounters with Bigfoot one being a 590 00:33:10,750 --> 00:33:08,750 school bus driver that was driving kids 591 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:10,760 to school one morning when a Bigfoot ran 592 00:33:14,529 --> 00:33:12,650 across the road in front of him and he 593 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:14,539 slammed on the brakes it was very angry 594 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:16,730 because it very upset the children on 595 00:33:22,169 --> 00:33:19,850 the bus so he got off the bus and chased 596 00:33:24,970 --> 00:33:22,179 after this creature which he thought was 597 00:33:27,669 --> 00:33:24,980 somebody playing a joke and it ran into 598 00:33:30,610 --> 00:33:27,679 the forest and as he was chasing it it 599 00:33:32,399 --> 00:33:30,620 turned around and made an ugly noise to 600 00:33:35,049 --> 00:33:32,409 him and he said the smell was so bad 601 00:33:37,990 --> 00:33:35,059 worse than a skunk about healing was 602 00:33:39,820 --> 00:33:38,000 fainted from the smell she ran back got 603 00:33:42,159 --> 00:33:39,830 on the bus and took the kids as a school 604 00:33:44,770 --> 00:33:42,169 and that was the last time you tried to 605 00:33:49,020 --> 00:33:44,780 chase after anybody that looked like 606 00:33:52,870 --> 00:33:49,030 Bigfoot but many times there are stories 607 00:33:56,230 --> 00:33:52,880 or Indian legends that describe Bigfoot 608 00:33:59,500 --> 00:33:56,240 or Sasquatch type characters from Canada 609 00:34:02,799 --> 00:33:59,510 all the way down into Arkansas and even 610 00:34:07,149 --> 00:34:02,809 in them the Appalachian area there are 611 00:34:10,540 --> 00:34:07,159 stories about Bigfoot and I think even 612 00:34:15,990 --> 00:34:10,550 lloyd pye talked some about bigfoot-type 613 00:34:18,190 --> 00:34:16,000 creatures especially some that he 614 00:34:22,720 --> 00:34:18,200 encountered stories about in the in 615 00:34:25,659 --> 00:34:22,730 Russia so even in other places so if you 616 00:34:30,220 --> 00:34:25,669 want to know more about the real cowboys 617 00:34:32,169 --> 00:34:30,230 and Aliens know he has this book on sale 618 00:34:34,780 --> 00:34:32,179 there or you can also get it online at 619 00:34:37,629 --> 00:34:34,790 Roswell books com or some of your local 620 00:34:39,159 --> 00:34:37,639 libraries may have this story there are 621 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:39,169 some favorite stories in there I like to 622 00:34:43,950 --> 00:34:41,410 tell little kids when they go to the 623 00:34:47,910 --> 00:34:43,960 schools and tell stories and there's 624 00:34:51,990 --> 00:34:47,920 even stories about the underwater sea 625 00:34:54,690 --> 00:34:52,000 serpent Type monsters and and others in 626 00:34:58,290 --> 00:34:54,700 this book and it's a it's one of my 627 00:35:00,810 --> 00:34:58,300 favorite books written by mr. Torres and